tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6364831396028560774.post5437832547207330804..comments2023-10-23T12:43:45.847-07:00Comments on Eventing-A-Gogo!: An Interesting Question of Ethics (Breeding)Andreahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15902291220984883182noreply@blogger.comBlogger50125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6364831396028560774.post-76067346818512303952010-12-30T13:41:55.258-08:002010-12-30T13:41:55.258-08:00I want to reply to the adoption being SUPER expens...I want to reply to the adoption being SUPER expensive thing.... it all depends where you adopt from. <br /><br />My adoption was handled by a private Christian organization that relies on Parents continued donations not a big one time fee. The organization was very careful when they looked at a family's finances but they did not let an inability to pay a one time fee keep an otherwise acceptable family from adopting. The joke in my family is that, not only was I a 'bargin (sp) baby' I was also tax deductible! lol. I personally would not be able to go through that organization as my SO is agnostic and many agencies that offer this are linked to a religious organizations as a way to augment funds and resources. However, look at the hospital bills that are produced by a pregnancy. If you happen to not have health insurance than that high monetary figure associated with adoption starts to seem very reasonable.<br />I must also say that the idea of not being able to get a normal kid is both untrue and insulting. What an unfair judgement to place on a child that is not even yours.<br />Yes the adoption process is long and hard - it should be- and yes it is hard to get infants at very young ages without long wait times. Thats just the way it is. When taking about breeding think of how our population would change if these same processes were applied to reproduction from the beginning.<br /><br />In my extended family and friends, there are stories of people that went through every permutation of the adoption process there is and not a single one of those families complain about what they went through or what they 'got.'<br /><br />I am sorry to address this so directly but if I was a perspective birth mother looking for an adoptive parent what you just posted would be a huge turn off. You have just said you want a cheap, 'normal', kid right now (I know that is a hyperbole of what you posted but I cannot help but read it that way). <br /><br />If you really need to have a baby right now go ahead, but the things that you complain about are not going to go away just because you have your own.<br /><br />I do not mean to offend anyone in any way, this is just something I am passionate about and could not not respond. As a side note, I do not understand the obsession with wanting an infant (most of the adoptions I am personally familiar with did adopt children as infants but not all). The infant stage is so quick... under 9 months. How fair is it to kids that miss that mark? I know that the older the child is the more 'complications' there can be when merging them into your family but the notion of only being open to adopting a baby is what slows down so many adoptions and is what keeps many kids in foster or government care. I think that there are so many biases that affect the adoption of a child that are not there when having one; it makes comparing the two processes in a truly academic way very problematic. <br />I am going to leave my comments here because I could post a lot more but much of what I have to say doesn't apply to the larger conversation.Ginahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06561439666358663664noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6364831396028560774.post-38604230929320338012010-12-29T10:37:09.577-08:002010-12-29T10:37:09.577-08:00You make the comment wondering why people who want...You make the comment wondering why people who want children don't just go adopt them instead of having them biologically. I'll tell you why: because it ain't that simple.<br /><br />Adoption is an exhausting, lengthy process that financially precludes most people. And forget finding a healthy, normal infant. That's practically impossible.<br /><br />Sure, everyone seems to know of someone who adopted. But believe me, it's damn near impossible.<br /><br />My husband and I seem like the perfect candidates: in our 30's, employed, own a beautiful home, heterosexual, Christian. However, as we have found out, unless we have nearly $100,000 and are willing to wait 3 to 5 years, adopting a baby is out of the question for us.<br /><br />It's depressing.<br /><br />So, yes, we have considered going back to the old fashioned way of making a baby. (We were trying to adopt instead of "adding to the overpopulation problem".) It's for damn sure cheaper and quicker...starrynightshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17226871957075024560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6364831396028560774.post-79688603165038709772010-12-28T21:37:13.079-08:002010-12-28T21:37:13.079-08:00I really wish I could add my views (you have no id...I really wish I could add my views (you have no idea) but I feel my thoughts might be too touchy. But I will say that I agree with most of what you said, and I myself want to adopt a little kiddo in the future (agree with the uterine-disposing-of idea haha!). And, as much fun as it would be to breed Greta, for health and quality reasons it would be best to work with a young, untrained rescue horse or a PMU foal or a mustang or a very nicely pedigreed youngin' whose mind is (for the most part) impressionable and ready to be molded (by a professional trainer, since I am certainly not qualified!)<br /><br />But AMEN to you for bringing up the topic.Dressagerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04849960430806754249noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6364831396028560774.post-85962031935025961432010-12-28T20:44:41.293-08:002010-12-28T20:44:41.293-08:00Have three children, they're a lot of work and...Have three children, they're a lot of work and mess and joy and challenge--aren't we all? I just want to point out that just because a pregnancy is unplanned does not guarantee that it will produce an undesirable "product", and that many wonderful humans were unplanned, and their conceptions ended up impacting many other lives in a positive way. Desiring a child is no guarantee of "success"--All lives have value, no matter their origin, and can make wonderful ripples on the pond. :)Netherfieldmomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14260647159580710835noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6364831396028560774.post-32554422349973398522010-12-28T17:46:41.802-08:002010-12-28T17:46:41.802-08:00I am not going to sit here and read all these resp...I am not going to sit here and read all these responses, so if I am reiterating what anyone else has said, my apologies.<br /><br />Humans and animals are two very different things. Humans are, for the most part, self-sufficient. Someone from the worst parents can turn out to be an amazing person who contributes to society in a big way - it has happened!<br /><br />Because we as humans have the ability to make our own way in life, take care of ourselves, we don't have to selectively breed (although in some cases, I wish we did). Horses need humans. And they are expensive - if we breed them, they better be something someone would want to make such a huge investment in. See what I mean? A talentless horse with everything wrong with it can't take care of itself, and can't help the fact that most people couldn't afford to have it just as a pasture puff. A talentless human with everything wrong with them CAN take care of themselves if they want to apply themselves, even if they aren't the greatest ever.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04821724997318014313noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6364831396028560774.post-78459415577929669042010-12-28T14:54:04.646-08:002010-12-28T14:54:04.646-08:00I'd just like to add that I am not childless, ...I'd just like to add that I am not childless, I'm CHILDFREE. :-) That's the term I prefer.Karenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11609268980526224486noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6364831396028560774.post-16399164714345571562010-12-28T14:52:36.999-08:002010-12-28T14:52:36.999-08:00I guess I am kind of in the Grey area in this disc...I guess I am kind of in the Grey area in this discussion. I personally never want children, not because I don't think my genes should be passed on but because I guess I'm selfish and don't want to give up my time, energy and money on a child. If that ever changes I fully plan on adopting. <br /><br />However, I do plan on breeding Sora at some point. I plan on breeding her once, to a stallion that will improve what she has, keeping the baby no matter what and ensuring that should anything happen to me it will have a good home the same as Sora. Now, Sora is not the PERFECT Arabian but since I'm not planning on selling the result or allowing it to be bred, or breeding her more then once to some random stallion I don't see that it really will cause any sort of breach in the space time continuum. I would breed her for the same reason I would decide to have a child myself and I have put at least as much thought into breeding her as I have to deciding I don't want children myself :)SoraSoulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12317512833158062788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6364831396028560774.post-66707113522970459202010-12-28T14:01:40.572-08:002010-12-28T14:01:40.572-08:00"Now Amy, I have to ask. Are animals also not..."Now Amy, I have to ask. Are animals also not designed to breed with their own penises and vaginas? What makes them different from us in that way? <br />And also, what if two vaginas love each other? Does this make them irrelevant in God's eyes?"<br /><br />Yes they are absolutely supposed to use that anatomy to breed and in the wild that works out just fine but domesticated animals are a bit different. I am not a no-breeding advocate. If you go back and read any of my responses you can see I see no problem with you breeding your horse. For the same reason I have children. I wanted them and no matter what I would take sole responsiblity for them in all areas such as; nurturing, financial, health, educational ect. From everything I have gathered from reading your posts you are an intellegent, responsible person especially when it comes to your horses. So I have confidence that you will take all of those repsonsibilties when it comes to bringing a Go-go baby into this world wheter it be perfect or not.<br />As far as two vagina's in love they are absolutely, positively, unquestionably NOT irrelevant to God!!!! He absolutely, positively, unquestionably, thoroughly, unconditionally loves them deeper and stronger than any love we have ever known. And that I am sure of. Does that answer that question:)?Amyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13472219069662152722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6364831396028560774.post-72896464340571104932010-12-28T12:56:41.469-08:002010-12-28T12:56:41.469-08:00I guess I look at children the same way i look at ...I guess I look at children the same way i look at puppies. Do I want one someday YES! am I going to breed my own, probably not. I am a huge advocate of fostering and adoption. I was adopted as a baby and it was honestly the best gift my birth-mother could ever give me.<br />Pregnancy sounds super uncomfortable... and to not be able to ride for 3-6 months... no thanks. However, the ability to act positively in a child's life as a roll model or parent would be a priceless experience. I think that we as a culture over look unwanted kids. Think of how many ASPCA adds you see on TV. Think of your local animal shelter. Now think of your local Children's Home. I bet most people don't know that one. <br /><br />There are a million and one reasons not to reproduce (starting with childbirth) but I don't think it is necessary to get pregnant to be a parent.<br /><br />My view on horses, slightly different. I would love to get a breeding lease on a good sport- bred TB for one or two seasons.Ginahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06561439666358663664noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6364831396028560774.post-50587513736696954882010-12-28T12:47:38.046-08:002010-12-28T12:47:38.046-08:00I've read everyone's responses and I do ag...I've read everyone's responses and I do agree with many points, but I do see a grey area in this discussion..<br /><br />I have some idea of what "quality" means within the world of breeding horses, because before the the future foal is an embryo, we make decisions on it's existence. We get to choose it's father/sire in a fashion (based on conformation, mental and physical soundess etc) which is often not practiced within the human race (i.e; two humans coming together in a loving, long-lasting sound relationship which is a secure and equally sound environment to raise a child in). We get to choose what we want our foal to do through breeding, even though there is always a chance the foal will never succeed in what we choose.<br /><br />What exactly does "quality" or even "mediocre" mean when it comes to humans? In horses mediocre could be in relation to poor conformation for example. But what does it mean for people?<br /><br />If "quality" has to do with success, for example someone who is a great doctor, how does that have anything to do really with that person's ability to raise a great offspring?Diligent Horsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06842243313436885304noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6364831396028560774.post-33725558978591056402010-12-28T12:43:40.284-08:002010-12-28T12:43:40.284-08:00The only real problem I have with people breeding ...The only real problem I have with people breeding horses, is that there are so many abused and unwanted ones out there, which is putting a strain on the horse industry. At least where I'm from anyway. In my county you get a tax break if you own a breeding farm, so lots of people just breed their horses without any consideration for what the foal will be like or what may happen to it in the future. There are similar problems with dogs. Not the tax bit, but the numbers of unwanted ones that end up in the SPCA or part of Rescue 100 (horses).<br />As for people, ha, some should be allowed to have kids, but really, their kids have the potential to turn out better than their parents. If only darwanism was still prodominant, a lot of those poeple whouldn't live long enought to have kids. That sounds bad, but it's true. <br />I'm also pro-choice. There are people who get pregnant and can't care for or support the kid (or are rape victims) and chose to abort the kid. Of course they could put it up for adoption or foster care, but that could be terrible for the kid. Lots of nasty stuff happens in foster care. But it comes down to hoping people can look after themselves and do what they need to and recognizing that maybe they shouldn't have kids, or breed their pets.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03413825184379531748noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6364831396028560774.post-64463901820227845222010-12-28T10:50:28.089-08:002010-12-28T10:50:28.089-08:00See, look, my mother came on here and just proved ...See, look, my mother came on here and just proved that "oh but MY kid is special" theory that someone else presented! Yea... sure mom!<br /><br />Now Amy, I have to ask. Are animals also not designed to breed with their own penises and vaginas? What makes them different from us in that way? <br />And also, what if two vaginas love each other? Does this make them irrelevant in God's eyes?Andreahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15902291220984883182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6364831396028560774.post-73687970556585987002010-12-28T09:45:51.739-08:002010-12-28T09:45:51.739-08:00I think Gogo would be fantastic to breed! Sound li...I think Gogo would be fantastic to breed! Sound like her soundness issues was from a freak injury thing, not because you were riding a horse whose conformation was unsuitable for what you were doing. So unless she has some glaring conformational issues that I don't see, why would she (when crossed with a breeding quality stallion) produce anything less than a stellar equine athlete? No horse is perfect, we strive for perfection, and we shouldn't stop that. We just need to acknowledge that all horses are imperfect in some way and it doesn't always stop them from having long and successful careers. The fingers on my right hand are slightly longer than the ones on my left. You know, I have no trouble typing with them, and as to date, I have no soundness issues related to that oddity either. ;)<br />As for bringing up a baby... sounds like you are now in a location where you can take on that financial burden more easily.LittleRedMarehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07925418478175199409noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6364831396028560774.post-69077102055245734102010-12-28T09:37:54.531-08:002010-12-28T09:37:54.531-08:00Oh no here comes the religous freak!
God created ...Oh no here comes the religous freak!<br /><br />God created us to procreate. I mean the simple design of the penis and vagina make that pretty clear as to what you are suppossed to do with them. We are to pass on our genes perfect or imperfect. That is what we are to do. <br />Now that is not to say that everyone is suppossed to. Ahhhh that is where the whole point comes in BALANCE. The world needs balance. We are all created different and there is also a reason behind that. So you choose not to procreate and I choose to hump like rabbits and have a litter...balance. I am not you nor am I better than you. We are all equally in the same boat. Imperfect people put here on this earth to do with our lives what we choose. The beauty of it all!!! We get to choose!!!<br />About the earth, all the concern about it lasting forever for endless generations of us rabbit breeding people to infest it. The good news about that is that the earth was not designed(by God) to last forever. So you can be relieved. The earth will end someday and we won't have to worry about the litter having humans ;). Again I am not saying we should then not care about how we care for the earth we were given to live on. Because we are suppossed to take care of it BUT it is not to placed above human life. It is a deteriorating ball of mass that we are blessed enough be able to live on. The same with the animals they were designed by God and given to us to be able to enjoy and have the priveledge to have in our lives but they are not equal to humans. They are under us to be ruled by us. All we can do is make the best decisions we can with the information we have. We will not be able to control it all ever and it is best we just enjoy the ride the best we can.Amyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13472219069662152722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6364831396028560774.post-70242357782661998852010-12-28T09:27:49.185-08:002010-12-28T09:27:49.185-08:00Thoughtful post Andrea, and sparked some great dis...Thoughtful post Andrea, and sparked some great discussion. I will admit, I am in the group that wants a baby someday. BUT, it will not be until I can properly take care of said baby. As in I have a stable job that will let me afford to care for myself, baby and my horse. A former friend of mine has three children now (and she's only 27) all of those children have different fathers and I as a taxpayer are paying to support them. She has been on welfare since she pregnant with the first child who just turned 7. She is in no way fit to be a parent. She does not have a stable job with which to support these children, she has not been able to give them a stable home life. She is now working on her second marriage (to a man who has three kids of his own) and she was engaged to another man in between those two marriages. All of those men have lived with her at some point in time. And yet, everytime she announces that she is pregnant, everyone jumps up and down and says how happy they are for her. She is a perfect example of someone who should not be reproducing. <br /><br />I agree with you Andrea, all those people who jumped down your throat for thinking about breeding Gogo would be trilled if you announced you were having a baby. It's a double standard. And I don't think there should be one. If you think that an animal is not a candidate to reproduce, why can't you see the same thing in humans? <br /><br />Really great post. Certainly made me think, and judging by the comments I'm not the only one.Jaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14752710197930123863noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6364831396028560774.post-66862973838404750872010-12-28T07:31:21.531-08:002010-12-28T07:31:21.531-08:00ROFL, I don't say "yay!" when people...ROFL, I don't say "yay!" when people get pregnant. I don't think anyone should breed themselves! 99% of babies turn into mediocre adults like the rest of us (oh, I can hear mommy now: "but mine is speeeshull!"). I'm a biologist -- maybe I have a different or larger perspective on what life really is because my job is the essence of life, which boils down to sex, death, and poop. I'm a dedicated non-breeder because overpopulation is REAL (I am 32, there is no biological clock, some of us are NOT ruled by our uterus). There are more people in the world than there is food to feed them. Of course, no one cares when it is time to squeeze out a crotch dropping. They say "oh, starving people are sad. But I don't care, I'm still making another food and resource consumer because hey, there's a grocery store down the street!" No one really ever wants to face the ugly questions, they just stick their heads in the sand. People are not special, they live, they breed, they die, they invent their own delusions of grandeur. I remain entertained (in a sad say) by their endless loops of creative logic to convince themselves that they are oh so wonderful while I watch every day at work while they annihilate everything around them with not a single iota of conscience.eventer79https://www.blogger.com/profile/03160817772061132147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6364831396028560774.post-76745120754392193412010-12-28T05:34:29.445-08:002010-12-28T05:34:29.445-08:00Like others, am very happy that someone else share...Like others, am very happy that someone else shares my viewpoint. Being related to some real... winners... who feel the need to endlessly procreate hasn't helped my view on things either. I've known since I was 14 that I didn't want children, and some of the nasty comments given as a result are amazing. That I am jealous and desperately (secretly) want a child, that I am selfish, self centered. Why is it so wrong to not want children? All the comments about how "good" I am with the nieces, and I would be such a better mom than I think. <br />I see how most kids act and it makes me so happy to not have them. I don't want to be the person with 2 screeching kids in the store. Or be unable to have dinner because the kid needs to be coddled in order to behave. Or be unable to visit/talk to a friend because the kid demands all of the attention. Seen all of these scenarios multiple times, it's not for me. To some, that makes me a bad person.appydoesdressagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03247747981543003242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6364831396028560774.post-6834725472850916852010-12-28T04:53:10.825-08:002010-12-28T04:53:10.825-08:00I agree that fewer kids is a good idea. Unfortuna...I agree that fewer kids is a good idea. Unfortunately in the UK we PAY people to have kids. So wrong.Lucy Prioryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04280373786413701480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6364831396028560774.post-24765053076427815012010-12-28T03:49:40.968-08:002010-12-28T03:49:40.968-08:00Mom sayeth: I wished for you. To me it is that s...Mom sayeth: I wished for you. To me it is that simple. I don't mean getting pregnant by "accident" but truly determining that now is the time. I didn't think I wanted any children and waited 10 years after getting married...but one day, seemingly out of the blue, it hit me hard. I wished for you. True not everyone wants to have children. True maybe not everyone will be a good Mom, but you would be surprised at how the heart and mind converges to do the absolute best you can for that little screaming bundle of joy. When you look at that beautiful face you know you will move heaven and earth to try and make life wonderful and safe. Kids may kick and scream and act like brats(aliens abduct children during their teen years) but many many many grow up to be brilliant and beautiful people. So life goes on. Ah yes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6364831396028560774.post-47515737090394045722010-12-28T00:41:37.571-08:002010-12-28T00:41:37.571-08:00We've talked about this many times before, so ...We've talked about this many times before, so you already know that we don't agree. I just want to point out that what Ashley said about her horse being the "best" for her applies to people, too.<br /><br />You may not be a perfect candidate for breeding, but you are a perfect friend, and I am very glad you are in the world. Everyone has the capacity to do good in the world, and it doesn't have to be in a huge way.<br /><br />In the same vein, my favorite horses have not been the "best" horses I've gotten to ride. If you offered me Beach, Abby, Duke, Jamaica, and Calisto against Percy, Opie, Marco, Kiwi, Spot, and Lucy I'd take the group of rejects in a second.<br /><br />And every nearly perfect person I know pisses me off. I'll take my group of rejects, thanks.Nicole Redmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10168433998054207905noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6364831396028560774.post-80035937830976843822010-12-27T20:26:49.373-08:002010-12-27T20:26:49.373-08:00All I know is that if someone is seriously thinkin...All I know is that if someone is seriously thinking about having kids they should be REQUIRED to teach in a middle school for two weeks.<br /><br />The end.Albigearshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07705231641878762167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6364831396028560774.post-45427114527015196132010-12-27T20:02:23.542-08:002010-12-27T20:02:23.542-08:00This comment has been removed by the author.Cat in Virginiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15347945218024808768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6364831396028560774.post-61762376071787400332010-12-27T20:00:00.575-08:002010-12-27T20:00:00.575-08:00I'm new here, but have been reading for a litt...I'm new here, but have been reading for a little bit. First of all, it's nice to find people who have the same opinion about reproduction....it's just not for me. I feel the same way as thistimedressage that I can contribute in a more meaningful way to the world than by having children, and a lot of people just look at me funny when I explain this. I actually had an RN tell me I should seek psychological help because it was unnatural! <br />It's hard to compare human "breeding" with horse breeding. The attributes in horses that we value are pretty specific when compared to the attributes in people. What attributes, or combination of attributes makes for a good person? Is it necessary to be and MD looking to cure cancer with a 140pt IQ and a perfect BMI? I happen to know a few of these folks and I don't think I'd say they are any better than a librarian friend of mine who devotes many hours of her retirement to the Red Cross. And I'm pretty much comparing middle-class Americans...I imagine someone in central China has their own metric of human "fitness" for breeding. <br />We can only control our own choices and actions ultimately. I think anyone who has children or breeds a horse and accepts responsibility for those offspring's wellbeing and future are doing the right thing. I only really have issue with individuals who do these things completely un-thinkingly, like the drug-addicted mother or puppy mill operator and quite a few thoroughbred racehorse breeders. <br />I can't help but throw in my two cents on the human moral/consciousness vs. animal debate. I agree that humans have a level of consciousness and understanding of future/consequences that other species do not possess, but that doesn't mean that we're not still animals!! All the primitive instincts for selfishness, physical pleasure and reproduction are still there. And I would argue there are too many people that forget that and don't exercise their higher consciousness enough!Cat in Virginiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15347945218024808768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6364831396028560774.post-73229934690253422022010-12-27T19:00:08.285-08:002010-12-27T19:00:08.285-08:00I think it's a choice you have to make yoursel...I think it's a choice you have to make yourself. Everyone's going to have there own opinion, but at the end of the day, what influence do the readers of your blog really have over you? It's a personal decision made public because you blog about your horse.<br /><br />Honestly, Breeding Gogo is your choice, and if you think you and your mare can cope with a foal, go for it, just remember that we all must be responsible for our actions:) But your an adult, and you know that better than I...Marehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16127842562111344534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6364831396028560774.post-45229216136471987132010-12-27T18:23:22.443-08:002010-12-27T18:23:22.443-08:00Andrea, I just logged on to read what everyone has...Andrea, I just logged on to read what everyone has posted since earlier today...just like you said- super juicy ;-) and wow some people surely get heated. <br /><br />I am with Funder. I am one that wants a baby one day. Not any time soon but when the time is right then I hope it happens. I think it is perfectly fine that others do not want children or think that they shouldn't have children. In all honesty, those people who think that probably would make exceptional children and would raise them with a wonderful outlook on life lol. It definitely sucks that the "losers of the world" have the ability to reproduce - our world would probably be a better place altogether if people did put more thought into having children and whether or not its the right time of their life. <br /><br />I have never really thought of it in this sense at all. This opinion still doesn't change mine but I like being introduced to new ideas and viewpoints.Ashleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10984295912656964300noreply@blogger.com